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UPDATE: To Priest Abe Arganiosa, the Catholic Defender of Idol Worship, I dare you to ask Bro. Eli

Romans 15:4 NIV
For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

Priest Abraham “Abe” Arganiosa, CRS

I find Mr. Abe as a priest who doesn’t know what he was talking about. He was putting MCGI in the bad light commenting about the information relayed to him by his neophyte Catholic Apologist named Beltran O.P.

From top to bottom, Mr Abe tried to question the decision of the Presiding Minister [Bro. Eli Soriano] of the Members Church of God International (MCGI), one was how he handled the rebels, which includes Willy Santiago and his cohorts; and the task given to the Vice Presiding Minister, Kuya Daniel Razon. He wrote of his opinion.

I asked the author Priest Abraham “Abe” Arganiosa, CRS of the blog, “The Splendor of the Church“ who wrote “UPDATE ON CHURCH OF GOD INTERNATIONAL or ANG DATING DAAN SECT.”, through a comment to “Please add the above original paragraphs of my previous comment.”

Fr. Abe, CRS said…[HOW CAN WE KNOW IF ONE IS UPHOLDING A FALSE DOCTRINE ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA OF ELI SORIANO? IF THE DOCTRINE UPHELD IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE BIBLE.

ELI SORIANO SWALLOWED THE INVENTED HERESY OF MARTIN LUTHER ON SOLA SCRIPTURA WHICH IS ALSO NOT BIBLICAL. HE, HE, HE…]

If you can’t face Bro. Eli in a debate, “Ask Bro. Eli, the Bible shall answer!”

# Romans 15:4 NIV
For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

# 1 Timothy 4:13 NIV
Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching and to teaching.

# 2 Timothy 3 NIV
15and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

While leaders are being killed just so the existing leader will remain in the seat of power, the Roman Catholic Church history shows both members and leaders played their role, participating in the massacre of millions of people.

Fr. Abe, CRS replied…[HA, HA, HA… THIS IS SWALLOWING THE MYTHS INVENTED BY SDA AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. ON THE CONTRARY, THE CATHOLICS WERE BEING KILLED DURING THOSE TIMES. WE WERE UNDER ATTACKS BY MOSLEMS AND BARBARIANS AND THE CATHOLICS HAVE TO DEFEND THEIR LIVES, THEIR FAITH, THEIR PROPERTIES AND THEIR LANDS. THE MOSLEMS CONQUERED JERUSALEM, WIPED OUT THE CATHOLICS IN ARABIA, SYRIA AND IRAQ AND THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST, THEY CONQUERED PART OF SPAIN AS WELL AS PORTUGAL AND WAS ABOUT TO TAKE ON FRANCE AND ITALY. OF COURSE, IT WAS OUR MORAL DUTY TO PROTECT OURSELVES. THE CRUSADES WERE A JUST WAR BECAUSE WE RESPONDED TO ISLAMIC JIHAD.]

Well said Priest Abe, you are now accusing the Moslems and the barbarians. If this was the opinion of the Roman Catholic Church leaders and members in those times, contradicting the doctrines of Jesus Christ, no wonder why the deceased Pope John Paul II would need to say this in accordance to your dogma, wash your hands Pilate.

Matthew 27:24 NIV
When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”

Fr. Abe, CRS said…[OUR POPE IS TRULY A MAN OF GOD AND A MAN OF PEACE. HE OFFERED APOLOGY FOR THE MISTAKES COMMITTED BY CATHOLICS AND OFFERED FORGIVENESS FOR THE EVIL DONE TO US.]

What doctrine of Jesus Christ did you swallow, Priest Abe? Can the dead apologize? Was that a doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church? What a shame, the Catholic Defender Priest Abe should instead write to the current Pope and all the living Catholics to apologize now, write it down in your sermon, now!

Ecclesiastes 9:5 NIV
For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten.

Fr. Abe, CRS asked…[HOW CAN WE KNOW IF ONE IS UPHOLDING A FALSE DOCTRINE ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA OF ELI SORIANO? IF THE DOCTRINE UPHELD IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE BIBLE….]

Datapuwa’t ang nangagpapakabuyo sa mga kalayawan, bagama’t buhay ay patay.
Tagalog: Ang Dating Biblia (1905) – 1 Kay Timoteo 5:6

But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. 1 Timothy 5:6 KJV

Surely, the dead knows nothing.

I also told him that “I will post this again to my blogs or post this as a comment to christiandefenders‘ blog entitled, “The Catholic Priest, Abe Arganiosa Pussyfoots On An Awaited Debate.”

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  1. Beltran, O.P.
    December 13, 2009 at 1:34 am

    Thanks for endorsing the Splendor of the Church blog of our dearest Rev. Fr. Abe Arganiosa. hehehehe..

  2. December 13, 2009 at 11:40 am

    Ecclesiastes 9:5 NIV
    For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten.

    Fr. Abe, CRS asked…[HOW CAN WE KNOW IF ONE IS UPHOLDING A FALSE DOCTRINE ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA OF ELI SORIANO? IF THE DOCTRINE UPHELD IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE BIBLE….]

    Datapuwa’t ang nangagpapakabuyo sa mga kalayawan, bagama’t buhay ay patay.
    Tagalog: Ang Dating Biblia (1905) – 1 Kay Timoteo 5:6

    But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. 1 Timothy 5:6 KJV

    Surely, the dead knows nothing.

  3. December 15, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    So, it’s Mr. Abe’s plan of being endorsed by riding on Bro. Eli’s popularity?

    Simply, Mr. Abe wants to be at the top like a fly on carabao’s head.

    Wait for more endorsement, Beltran.

  4. December 15, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Mr. Abe was happy that Catholics are visiting his blog. While his neophytes cheer for him and extend gossips to him (their art of war), Catholic members would realize that they really are taught to worship idols and not only venerate them. Some would be shocked on Mr. Abe’s personal revelation and dogma on idol worship and soul business.

    I thought, “These are only the poor; they are foolish, for they do not know the way of the LORD, the requirements of their God.

    So I will go to the leaders
    and speak to them;
    surely they know the way of the LORD,
    the requirements of their God.”
    But with one accord they too had broken off the yoke
    and torn off the bonds. Jeremiah 5:4-5 NIV

    Romans 1 NIV
    21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

    24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

    26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

    28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.

    32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

    Fr. Abe, CRS asked…[HOW CAN WE KNOW IF ONE IS UPHOLDING A FALSE DOCTRINE ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA OF ELI SORIANO? IF THE DOCTRINE UPHELD IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE BIBLE….]

    Luke 8:10 NIV
    He said, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, ” ‘though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.’

  5. December 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    This Priest just rely on trash talk and appeal to mockery. Nothing can be learned from him but purely trash talking.

  6. Iconoclast
    February 25, 2014 at 8:28 am

    christiandefenders :
    This Priest just rely on trash talk and appeal to mockery. Nothing can be learned from him but purely trash talking.

    I know this is an old post but I still want to say that this is so true. I recently came across their trashy website supposedly “defending” the “splendor” of their “majestic” church. And yeah, most of their leagues indeed rely on trash talk, mockery, and spreading of desperate lies. I can’t believe some people have actually entrusted their souls to such a narrow observance of the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ (catholicism is in fact less than narrow, for it is filled with man-made doctrines of rationalization).

    If we are to take it from the context of the scriptures, and base what we’re observing now to how some of their colleagues during the time of the Apostle Paul were, they would certainly fit how Apostle Paul described them:
    “…who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.”

    Shame on these people.

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