Tradition of men, not of Christians
My comment found from a post entitled, “Doers And Not Hearers Only : James 1:19-27“:
How about the idols in your Roman Catholic Churches? Why are they still there? Is it not a commandment not to make graven images and bowing – worshipping to them?
Allow me to paste here the passages:
24 Do not bow down before their gods or worship them or follow their practices. You must demolish them and break their sacred stones to pieces. 25 Worship the LORD your God, and his blessing will be on your food and water. I will take away sickness from among you, 26 and none will miscarry or be barren in your land. I will give you a full life span.
1 Hear what the LORD says to you, O house of Israel. 2 This is what the LORD says:
“Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the sky,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so it will not totter.
5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch,
their idols cannot speak;
they must be carried
because they cannot walk.
Do not fear them;
they can do no harm
nor can they do any good.”
6 No one is like you, O LORD;
you are great,
and your name is mighty in power.
7 Who should not revere you,
O King of the nations?
This is your due.
Among all the wise men of the nations
and in all their kingdoms,
there is no one like you.
8 They are all senseless and foolish;
they are taught by worthless wooden idols.
9 Hammered silver is brought from Tarshish
and gold from Uphaz.
What the craftsman and goldsmith have made
is then dressed in blue and purple—
all made by skilled workers.
10 But the LORD is the true God;
he is the living God, the eternal King.
When he is angry, the earth trembles;
the nations cannot endure his wrath.
11 “Tell them this: ‘These gods, who did not make the heavens and the earth, will perish from the earth and from under the heavens.’ ”
12 But God made the earth by his power;
he founded the world by his wisdom
and stretched out the heavens by his understanding.
13 When he thunders, the waters in the heavens roar;
he makes clouds rise from the ends of the earth.
He sends lightning with the rain
and brings out the wind from his storehouses.
14 Everyone is senseless and without knowledge;
every goldsmith is shamed by his idols.
His images are a fraud;
they have no breath in them.
15 They are worthless, the objects of mockery;
when their judgment comes, they will perish.
16 He who is the Portion of Jacob is not like these,
for he is the Maker of all things,
including Israel, the tribe of his inheritance—
the LORD Almighty is his
What about the commandment?
1And God spake all these words, saying,
2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Do you know that in Quiapo, Philippines when the Roman Catholic exhibits and parade their graven images, people get killed just to be able to grab a rope to pull the idols from one place to another? How did they die? They collapse and some get walked upon to death. It is an accident by the way, they died for nothing just to be able to follow your tradition which is against God’s commandment. And your post contradicts what your Roman Catholic church preaches.
Are you the doer of God’s commandment or the doer of your Roman Catholic traditions?
Just evident to their ideas how far they are willing to go:
(Romans 10:2-3) For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
What does the verses above teach us? People make graven images but then again, they bow down to them, more so, they sell them. Some buys these idols and places them on an altar with lighted candles on the sides, then the buyer kneels and bows down to it. Is it not this ridiculous? The maker bows down to his creation, the merchandise. But these idols and graven images are made of paper, woods and stones, and even now plastics and fiber glasses. And how come people do these things? Well they follow their own righteousness and ideas instead of God’s righteousness. And who do teaches these things or allow this things to happen, the authorities in the churches of the dead!
(Jeremiah 23:30) Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbor.
(Isaiah 56:11) Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
Time and again, what the bible said is proven to be true.
(1 Corinthians 2:6) Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to naught…
Thus, God said:
(1 Corinthians 1:19) For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
The doctrine of the Catholic Church regarding the use of sacred images is clearly and fully expressed by the General Council of Trent in the following words: “The images of Christ, and of His Virgin Mother, and of other Saints, are to be had and retained, especially in churches; and a due honor and veneration is to be given to them; not that any divinity or virtue is believed to be in them for which they are to be honored, or that any prayer is to be made to them, or that any confidence is to be placed in them, as was formerly done by the heathens, who placed their hopes in idols; but because the honor which is given them is referred to the originals which they represent, so that by the images which we kiss, and before which we uncover our heads or kneel, we adore Christ and venerate His Saints, whose likeness they represent.”[Sess. xxv.]
But then again, the circus of explanation and reason of retaining such symbols fall under many categories like representation, comparisson, a need for faith to survive, etc, to the extent of contradicting the doctrine by the General Council of Trent. But they are all hiding in their own righteousness, not of God’s righteousness.
And please do not address me as needing to understand your Church that teaches its members to bow down on idols made by the hands of men through catechism and traditions. Which are these idols? These are the graven images of your Jesus, Mary, Apostles, etc.
If you do not know this, try to check your Catholic books. And if you will attest that bowing to the graven images is purely veneration, then I say you really are like your popes.
When John tried to worship the angel, the angel quickly said:
At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Do not bow down before their gods or worship them or follow their practices. You must demolish them and break their sacred stones to pieces. 25 Worship the LORD your God, and his blessing will be on your food and water. I will take away sickness from among you, 26 and none will miscarry or be barren in your land. I will give you a full life span.
Acts 17:29 “Therefore since we are God’s offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by man’s design and skill. 30In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead.”
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