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Listen, join, live it!

Below is my comment from a post by rjperalta entitled, Showing the most concern for humanityUnfortunately, he deleted it.  He let this comment standing now. Sorry, he deleted it again. After my comment below, he deleted more of my comments which I also posted below my comment on my post entitled:  learning the bible.

Your statements just proved that you have limited, if not, no understanding of the scriptures. Let me prove what I say. This is to be frank as we are not like those hypocrites who pervert and merchandise the word of God. I am not saying that you are one of them. It is just your misunderstanding that I want to emphasize.

How can we be born of the Spirit of God if we have not been baptised in water? Who shall baptise as in water? Would it be by a member of the body(church) or someone who thought he is a member of the Church? How can you be baptised if you did not accept the doctrine? How can you accept the doctrine if you have not heard of it? How can the doctrine be read to you, without a reader that understands it? How can the reader preach if they are not called?

If the preacher was called, it is but logical that he is a member of the Church too! Where should baptism be done? Of course in the Church too! Is it a man-made church?

Therefore, allow me to read the scriptures relating to these questions.

Deuteronomy 12:5(NASB) But you shall seek the LORD at the place which the LORD your God will choose from all your tribes, to establish His name there for His dwelling, and there you shall come

Again, which place is it? Is it a house?

2 Chronicles 7:16 For now I have chosen and consecrated this house that My name may be there forever, and My eyes and My heart will be there perpetually

Is the house man-made?

1 Timothy 3:15 (NASB) but in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth.

Yes, the house is not a physical house but rather it is the church or the body:

Hebrews 3:6 but Christ was faithful as a Son over His house– whose house we are, if we hold fast our confidence and the boast of our hope firm until the end.

Colossians 1:18(NASB) He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.

Back to baptism, is it a commandment?

Matthew 28:19″Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

20teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

Where should it be done? Baptizing them in the church where the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit is present.

Ezra 7:23(NASB)”Whatever is commanded by the God of heaven, let it be done with zeal for the house of the God of heaven, so that there will not be wrath against the kingdom of the king and his sons.

1 Timothy 3:15 (NASB) but in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth.

Now, going back to your post entitled, “Showing the most concern for humanity”

I understand that this humanity you are talking about, are those who has not accepted the faith or has not heard of it yet, those outside the church.  Even those who have heard the fake gospel.

I said that the church is the mediator between God the Father and the people outside the church because the church is taught of all the commandments God has given to Jesus Christ, who is the head of the Church. Therefore, as we live our life, people will witness the true teachings not only by words but by deeds. This is one of the mysteries in the bible. We need to pray for them that God will open their eyes too, and also that these people will start to listen. When they opted to listen already, to whom shall they listen to?

You are just parroting what was said from 1 Tim 2:5. But who are these “us”? It is the church! Again, what are the composition of the church? It is not the temple that hands built.

Are you already a part of the church just by being born of the Spirit of God but have not learned of all the doctrines and learned of all the commandments of God, one of which is baptism? 

1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

The Church has been existing since time immemorial and has been composed of the following:

1 Cor 12:28-30
28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues.
29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?
30Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?

1 Timothy 3:15 (NASB) but in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth.

Colossians 1:18(NASB) He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.

Now, is it clear that you having your own understanding cannot show the most concern for the humanity? Although you can, but not the most because your understanding is but limited.  It is like stepping up on a ladder, instead of taking every step, you jumped.

Mine is limited too but I am continously learning, with His divine guidance through our overseer, Bro Eli Soriano.

Thanks for the space.

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