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Why Willy Santiago and his cohorts were given to Satan

As soon as Judas had taken the bread, he went out. And it was night. John 13:30 (NIV)

Those people are zealous to win you over, but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us, so that you may be zealous for them. Galatians 4:17 (NIV)

3If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, 4he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 5and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

1 Timothy 6 (New International Version)

24The sins of some men are obvious, reaching the place of judgment ahead of them; the sins of others trail behind them. 25In the same way, good deeds are obvious, and even those that are not cannot be hidden.

2 Timothy 5 (King James Version)

3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

4They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

2 Timothy 4 (NIV)

In this post, I will share the experience that I had with my former religion, Jesus Miracle Crusade International Ministry, JMCIM or JMC,  and its relation to why I believe that I am very fortunate to have found and joined the Members, Church of God International, MCGI. I will write about what I learned about the biblical doctrines that I learned by citing the false doctrines of JMC and comparing it to the biblical doctrines of MCGI. Later on, I will give my observation why I should hold steadfast in my faith in God and that His sent Ministers in this era are Bro. Eli Soriano and Bro. Daniel Razon. I will also write about why I should not believe in Willy Santiago and his cohorts.

I was a former Born Again-Christian in Jesus Miracle Crusade International Ministry, JMCIM or JMC. There are certain doctrines in JMC that later on I found false after I watched Bro. Eli as he answers enquirers, viewers in his religious TV Show, “Itanong Mo Kay Soriano, Biblia ang Sasagot”, or  in english, “Ask Bro. Eli, the Bible shall answer.”  One of JMC doctrines involves children being baptized.  I was baptized around seven years old in JMC. JMC’s doctrines include baptizing children – who you will see thereafter, fighting with their non-brethren playmate, cursing them, “In the name of jesus, be petrified!” Harry Potter was not written yet during those times, though. The bible doesn’t teach to baptize little children, for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Another doctrine that is visible is the hair covering. JMC, women have long hairs, but they are allowed to cut them off up to waist. They too believe that it is their glory based on Saint Paul’s writings. But how the women in JMC was told was partly right. Saint Paul clarified:

but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 1 Cor 11: 15, 13

I learned in MCGI that Nature is in effect as far as hair covering is concerned. So, if JMC women are letting their hair grow up to waist then cut off the extra, it’s no longer the Nature that dictates it’s length, but the Pastor and the women themselves. That shows JMC’s personal interpretation of the bible verses.

In the biblical perspective, a woman praying or prophesying with an uncovered head both dishonors her head and shames herself.

If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. 1 Corinthians 11:6 (NIV)

Cutting off her hair or shaving off her head is a shame to her. Saint Paul clarified it in 1 Cor 11: 6 and further this at verse 15 and 13 saying, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering.

For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 1 Corinthians 11:6 (KJV)

Shorn
Strong’s G2751 – keirō
κείρω

Transliteration

keirō

1) to sheer: a sheep

2) to get or let be shorn

3) of shearing or cutting short the hair of the head

With regard to this doctrine, by allowing JMC women brethren to cut off their hair, the pastor of JMC is letting them to dishonor their head and shaming themselves. Catholic women both cut off or shave off their hair; even other Born Again Christians allows their sisters to sport short hairs, so who else are they putting in shame by allowing or ignoring these if their Church is that of the Church of God?

2I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings, just as I passed them on to you.  3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 1 Corinthians 11

JMC believed in Oneness, in the pastoral house, on the wall on the stage and the pulpit, there it says “The Jesus Church.”

But what does Saint Paul admonished to his brethren? He said,

if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15

These are some of the doctrines that are used to peddle the word of God. In the present dispensation, there are more false prophets that proliferate than in the past. These are pastors, gurus, or leaders who thought and taught that angels, spirits, or God himself enlightened them, but they don’t hold on to the biblical teaching.  They thought they have the power because they have miracles and can cast out devils. They refer to the Holy Bible when signs and wonders like these happen. But what I’ve learned now is that powers are given to the church of the first Christians, but not all can heal the sick, not all can cast out devils, etc.

God calls people to join that Church of God in the Holy Scriptures, not to establish their own church, but to cleave to the Church of God, where Jesus Christ is the cornerstone.

False teachers use flowery words, but in action, they deny the FAITH of Jesus Christ.  By just looking at their member’ actions, in a biblical perspective, you will realize that it is only what they can see on the group’s outside which attracts them to join, that is, enforcement of weak teachings made by men, lax in the enforcement of the commandments of God.

Some argues or teaches that their statutes are very strict, convinced that they themselves are, undoubtedly, the true Church. Their statutes are not even consistent with biblical statutes for the  Christians. These won’t make them the group that cleaved to the Church of God, neither would them be the Church of God.

As what I have mentioned about the women in JMC, they thought that cutting the edges of their hair, maintaining it up to their waistline, is enough to say that it is a long hair. They see this as an example or proof of being obedient to the teachings. But what really happened is that they do not understand the way of life of the early Christians. What they could probably be doing is by comparison, their  hair is longer than that of  other Born Again Christian groups, like Jesus Is Lord, JIL.

Hair covering is not easy, especially to those women who grew up to despise or not comfortable wearing long hairs. Unless the spirit of God is in you, you can’t possibly even entertain the thought of maintaining an uncut hair for the rest of your life. In MCGI, we were thought of biblical doctrines, it is in the Holy Bible, not elsewhere. The deeper you read the verses and the writings of Saint Paul, you will come to realize that being a Christian is a process. If you will join, you need to start from point one, Who is God? What are his commandments to Christians? Hair covering is very important part of the biblical doctrine and it is related to obedience to God as we find ourselves in the hierarchy:

3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 1 Corinthians 11

If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. 1 Corinthians 11:6 (NIV)

Another observation of mine is about debate and persecution.  In JMC, to debate against another group is not allowed even if it is matters of faith. But everyone can read in the New Testament that Saint Paul debated  those who perverts the word of God.

I also observed in JMC that they claim that they are the true Church, citing that they also suffered the same fate the early Christians experienced, that is, persecution. Early Christians were persecuted too but one of the reasons is that they have Ministers who can defend them, the government and other religions won’t win in debates and discussions be it courts or public places. Since they can’t win over the Christians, they persecuted them. But in the case of JMC, did they win? Did they even bother to try and prove that their doctrines are biblical?

When I was in JMC, both non-members and some brethren persecute us, but not because of the faith of Jesus Christ. Even non-Christians suffer persecutions.

The teachings that they have should be the first and foremost criteria to prove that they are Christians. You must first look on the teachings, if it is biblical, then by following them you will suffer persecutions as a Christian.

31“The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all. 32He testifies to what he has seen and heard, but no one accepts his testimony. 33The man who has accepted it has certified that God is truthful.

34For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God,

for God gives the Spirit without limit. 35The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands.

36Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him.”

John 3 (New International Version)

Let’s talk about dissension and  rebellion inside the Church. When I was still in JMCIM (JMC), there was a time when a spiritual warrior went out and established his own church and became pastor. My former Pastor was very much angry when this happened. I remember he was his relative, that’s why it is more emotional when the culprit went to the pastoral church in Novaliches to meet him, to say sorry, perhaps. But there was a commotion, for forgiveness is unattainable.

JMCIM and others who say they are a religious group may have rebellious members just like those who rebel against the government. This kind of dissension and or rebellion in a group is not something new in any sectarian or non-sectarian groups, in fact, it is very common because of material gains or principle they thought are worth fighting and  dying for. So, they cannot use this as a proof that they are in the true Church when their church teaches false doctrines.

33The man who has accepted it has certified that God is truthful.

34For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God,

for God gives the Spirit without limit.

John 3 (New International Version)

Evil replicates things of the Church in the Holy Bible to make people see similarities and convert them. But what it does are just mimicry of doctrines with deceit by adding or subtracting the verses, or the context and interpreting it by flowery words. Moreover, enticing people by manipulating historical records to own the true Church, but they remain to be a worshiper of other  gods.  The pastors, who subjected by the devil, do these and make these their church’s doctrine.

So, if there are rebels in that organization, but the doctrines fit the whims and caprices of either the false teachers or the members, then suffering from these does not make them the true church. These organization are instead a mimicry – rebellious men are put inside in fake churches, being governed by false teachers.

Early Christian congregation has rebellious members during their time too. But in the early Christian dispensation, there are rebels because they are the enemies of truth. The rebels inside,  these kinds of people who went inside or placed inside to suffer the brethren in the Church of God. Though there are dissensions, truth still arises through the minister guided by the Holy Spirit.

16If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God.

17In the following directives I have no praise for you, for your meetings do more harm than good. 18In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church, there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it. 19No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God’s approval. 20When you come together, it is not the Lord’s Supper you eat, 21for as you eat, each of you goes ahead without waiting for anybody else. One remains hungry, another gets drunk. 22Don’t you have homes to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you for this? Certainly not!

23For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 25In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

27Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.

1 Corinthians 11 (New International Version)

Similarly, in the present dispensation, a biblical group, the Members, Church of God International, MCGI, who cleaved to the Church of God,  Saint Paul being sent as Minister, experience these events thereby allowing the light to shine brighter. MCGI has biblical teachings, the doctrines of Jesus Christ, being put into action, a proof that they fear God. When I found this group that has the good teachings in words and actions, I immediately joined.

Being a member of MCGI now, where the truth shines in the midst of darkness, I don’t have a problem with the doctrines because the Church, as a whole manifest her zealousness in words and actions brought by her fear towards God.  Thus, it is not a surprise to hear or witness that there are kinds of brethren from the inside who turned out as spies of other religious sects, and most of all, groups of brethren who betray the church due to their selfish ambition.

These kinds of brethren dream to take the leadership and to talk in front and to make the brethren zealous of them. They are not just contented on their designation, but also wanted to grab power which they thought they deserve. The material power, that is, because the members are fast growing. But I doubt that they can sustain the members, especially the  moral and spiritual aspects by taking over the leadership in secrecy.

Taking over or coveting the place that are not theirs by creating confusion and rumors prove that they are not humble, and they are even contentious. What more when they do this in secrets? They appeal to certain brethren, corrupting their minds in Jesus Christ. They wait for the opportunity to strike, and when the time is ripe, they will bait members, thinking they are the ones approved by God. They persuade the brethren, who are not really brethren, to follow them, join them, also in secrets.

But one cannot keep secrets for a long time, God will expose them. The light is so great that they cannot hide their real intention among the real brethren. Bro. Eli and Kuya Daniel have given them a chance to explain, but their hearts were hardened.

Their own actions and words will expose what their heart’s desire soon. The day will reveal the rebels’ true skin.

We, the faithful brethren know these rebels because the Holy Bible is our guide even from the start when we heard the calling of God. We are ready for any actions these rebels and their cohorts will resort to. We will always fight the good fight, holding on to faith and a good conscience.

May God have mercy on those gullible ones, so they can ask God for forgiveness before it is too late.

18″I am not referring to all of you; I know those I have chosen. But this is to fulfill the scripture: ‘He who shares my bread has lifted up his heel against me.

19″I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He. 20I tell you the truth, whoever accepts anyone I send accepts me; and whoever accepts me accepts the one who sent me.”

21After he had said this, Jesus was troubled in spirit and testified, “I tell you the truth, one of you is going to betray me.”

22His disciples stared at one another, at a loss to know which of them he meant. 23One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him. 24Simon Peter motioned to this disciple and said, “Ask him which one he means.”

25Leaning back against Jesus, he asked him, “Lord, who is it?”

26Jesus answered, “It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish.” Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, son of Simon. 27As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him.

“What you are about to do, do quickly,” Jesus told him, 28but no one at the meal understood why Jesus said this to him. 29Since Judas had charge of the money, some thought Jesus was telling him to buy what was needed for the Feast, or to give something to the poor.

30As soon as Judas had taken the bread, he went out. And it was night.

John 13 (NIV)

MCGIs beware: “…Shown before the congregation the pictures of  Willy Santiago, Warly Santiago, Almer Caras, Allan Caras, Louie and Henry. Thus to warn the brethren not to accommodate in their homes the following people who are known to be recruiters with the intention to turn them to become their alliances  and enemies of the truth.” (MCGI Insider)

“…Willie Santiago, Almer Caras and their cohorts were  given to satan by the MCGI congregants and affirmed by Bro. Eli for coveting the highest position in the Church and for speaking lies and defamation against the messengers of God.” (MCGI Insider)

18Timothy, my son, I give you this instruction in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by following them you may fight the good fight, 19holding on to faith and a good conscience. Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith. 20Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.

1 Timothy 1 (New International Version)

3If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, 4he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 5and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

1 Timothy 6 (New International Version)

While these proud excommunicated members continue their evil works, the works of God continue to flourish abroad, from the east to the west. Through the help of GodBro. Eli Soriano and Kuya Daniel Razon, the Presiding and Vice-Presiding Minister in the MCGI, respectively, have kept their head in all situations, enduring hardship, and doing the work of an evangelist, making full proof of the ministry.

1I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

5But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

2 Timothy 4 (King James Version)

25In the same way, good deeds are obvious, and even those that are not cannot be hidden.

2 Timothy 5 (King James Version)

I thank God for His unspeakable gift, one is that I was able to get out of JMCIM and was able to join in the biblical religious group in this time, MCGI, where the doctrines of Jesus Christ is also strictly enforced and followed with faith, hope, and compassion, just like the first Christians do.

Bro. Eli and Kuya Daniel and the brethren, who are all faithful to God have handled the rebels very well, while they baptized a great number of people every month.

I will never believe Willy Santiago or any of his cohorts for their evil works precede them.

I believe that God sent Bro. Eli and Kuya Daniel to minister the MCGI and to preach to all nations His gospel.  As members and brethren, we will do our part to give them a helping hand and constantly assess ourselves, so that we can all work together for good, especially for all those who love God.

We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 2 Peter 1:19

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All thanks, praises, reverence, worship, honor and power be to The Loving and The Almighty God. Thank God for His unspeakable gift.

So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do. Luke 17:10

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  1. March 2, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    I left my former religion JMCIM because of my longing to understand the Holy Bible, learning more of God. I believe that if it’s my spirit that I feel who wanted to quench me from thirst of God’s words, then, moving forward means wanting more of God’s grace and the opportunity to follow him. I found MCGI and I’ll stay there for good.

    So, if anyone will leave a comment here telling me to leave my religion and become like them, becoming more evil and materialistic in the sight of God – thanks, but no thanks. If they have all the cravings except to do good, then, I won’t be convinced to join them of their new ways! Backsliding from the Truth won’t get them no where! So, please don’t snare me to your Godless world .

    Bro. Eli was called by God to spread His words. Whoever mocks Bro. Eli but doesn’t want to face him is a coward. Cowards don’t deserve company, unless they are cowards too.

    Galatians 3 NIV

    1You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard? 3Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort? 4Have you suffered so much for nothing—if it really was for nothing? 5Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the law, or because you believe what you heard?

    James 1:27 NIV
    Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

  2. March 3, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Romans 8 (New International Version)

    28And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him,[j] who[k] have been called according to his purpose.

    29For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

    31What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written:
    “For your sake we face death all day long;
    we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”[l] 37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.

    38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[m] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Romans 9 (New International Version)

    17For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g]

    18Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

    Romans 10 (New International Version)

    1Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved.

    2For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 3Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

  3. March 4, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    I learned that everyone is under God’s mercy, including you, believe it or not. I believe that God is just and merciful.

    Again, please don’t snare me to your Godless world, and your Godless chatters.

    What I can do is to convince you to get back on your feet and return to a Godly world, but the choice remains to be yours.

    2 Timothy 2:16
    Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.

  4. Moises Mendez
    April 9, 2012 at 8:45 am

    Bro, I suggest that you take a look or if you have time to listen to the Iglesia Ni Cristo teaching if you really want to sure that you are in the right group. Remember at stake here is the salvation of our soul. My question to you is how sure you are that Bro. Eli is a true messenger of God, is it because you are impressed with his teaching, what if I told you that most of them are not original and he just copied it to some Preachers like Herbert Armstrong and his mentors former minister of INC Nicolas Perez. Do you know how many times he change his religion’s name? The truth is I gave Bro. Eli a chance to convert me and for 15 years that I monitored him, I didn’t learned anything new from him and some of them are contradiction to the bible. And you even mention Daniel Razon of which is more than a broadcaster than a preacher. Just ask yourself if Bro. Eli die what will happen to his group w/c the main focus is the wisdom of Bro. Eli. Give yourself a chance if you will not satisfy with INC doctrine you can go back to MCGI, but don’t ask Bro. Eli or some MIC about INC because you will never know the truth about the INC.

    God Bless you, Brother

    Moises Mendez

  5. April 10, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    To my INC commenter, if you are impressed with your Chapel more than Manalo’s teachings, that’s your problem.

    Acts 17 NKJV

    23 for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN GOD.

    Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: 24 “God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands.

    25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.

    First and foremost, reference of Manalo’s teachings are shown on TV. What are these references? These are teachings from human interpretations from other religions he used, even your ministers, to prove how true your doctrines are. Shame on you! Do not accuse Bro. Eli of what your own Ministers do for a living! You should first watch your own TV show before you accuse Bro. Eli of what your own Ministers are doing.

    Nehemiah 6:8-9 NKJV
    Then I sent to him, saying, “No such things as you say are being done, but you invent them in your own heart.”
    For they all were trying to make us afraid, saying, “Their hands will be weakened in the work, and it will not be done.”
    Now therefore, O God, strengthen my hands.

    Bro. Eli doesn’t need to use those new writers and teachers because he is well versed in the scriptures, even spiritually. The doctrines of our Lord Jesus Christ, given by his Father, were written there, why are we going to look for another writer outside the Holy Bible to support them?

    I am impressed with Bro. Eli’s God, because His power is manifested in him who can answer any questions using the Holy Bible. I believe Bro. Eli’s teachings are the same ones preached by the leaders in the Church of God, in the first Century; and even the prophets in the old testament: both the message of God.

    If you had read my other posts, my faith will reveal to you that we learned that “hope”, that one from God, as shown by our Lord Jesus Christ’s faith; who has the good conscience that the only Good God can provide in our inner man. You should look for that truth. While he can answer questions using the Holy Scriptures, he has the will and faith, together with Kuya Daniel Razon, most of all, the good conscience to apply the good in managing the thousands and thousands of brethren, and still rising.

    I suggest you try to converse with the “D’ X-Man“, a short moniker of members, and the show title, that means “The Ex-Manalista” or watch them in UNTV37 because they are the true witnesses that they received a Good Conscience from God through Bro. Eli’s untiring and faithful services to the God, the one that cannot lie, by providing his brethren the necessary teachings and examples how to live in the old path, the good way, to do good works that God has provided since time immemorial for Christians to walk in them.

    A lawyer, even told me that Bro. Eli deserves a doctorate degree for his vast knowledge in the scriptures though he is not a college graduate. This lawyer is also the one who persecuted him before. But what people said don’t matter! What matter is what God says about His messenger:

    Ephesians 2:10 NKJV
    For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

    John 3:34 NKJV
    For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.

    John 7:18 NKJV
    He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him.

    Based on the Holy Scriptures, Bro. Eli speaks the words of God and he seeks the glory of the One who sent Him in this era. And since your question involves Bro. Eli, why don’t you tweet your questions to his twitter account? This is Bro. Eli’s twitter account, BroEliSoriano .

    I am nothing.

  6. marco
    June 29, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    bro, naiintindihan po kita meron po tayong kalayaan na pumili ng relihiyon na gusto po nating aniban, subalit nanghihinayang ako sayo kapatid dahilan sa na brainwas ka ng mag tiyo, im still member of JMCIM and when the time comes na biglang sumikat si soriano naging tagapagsubaybay niya ako, sabihin na nating napahanga dahilan sa ibang taktika niya sa pangangaral na kinakalaban niya ang lahat, na siya na ang pinaka magaling, na sinasamahan pa niya ng mga pagmumura para ma ipakita niya lang ang kaibahan niya at ma pukos sa kaniya ang pansin ng mga tao, walang araw na hindi niya siniraan ang ating banal na gawain at ang mahal na PASTOR at dahil sa mga pananalita niya nahikayat niya ako na magsuri at magkaroon ng alinlangan sa ating banal na gawain, nagsuri ako ng nagsuri hanggang sa abutan ako ng debate sa tv ng ADD at INC, binalanse ko lahat ng aral, nagsilabasan ang kanilang mga baho sa isat isa sa madaling salita puros CARNALITY ang napansin ko sa mga pinaggagawa nila, lahat may mali lahat may punto subalit ang MENTALIDAD ko lamang ang nabubusog, natapos ang aking pagsusuri at isa lamang ang aking napatunayan nananatiling ang JMCIM ANG tunay na gawain ng mahal na DIOS dahilan for the kingdom of GOD is not only in words but of POWER sa JMCIM ko lang po nakita yan, hindi puro salita, hindi puro aral, hindi puro debate o pagalingan na sinasangkalan na paghahanap kuno ng katotohanan ang debate pero iba ang nakikita ko kung sini ang palengkera siya ang panalo hindi yan ang paghahanap ng tamang aral manapay sabi ni APOSTOL PABLO:

    And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    Yan lang po ang masasabi ko bro……

  7. August 10, 2012 at 2:25 am

    John 7:17 KJV

    If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

    Marco, so you professed to be a member of Jesus Miracle Crusade International Ministry, JMCIM/JMC. You said that you were an avid follower of Bro. Eli Soriano, the Presiding Minister of the Members, Church of God International, MCGI on television.  Despite of this, you wrote some unfair and baseless allegations and accusations against Bro. Eli to rationalize that JMC is the true fellowship of God. 

    I was a JMC member and I could see the thirst that you have for truth. You have your share of best intentions to rationalize your belief instilled through repetitions of your pastor’s selective use of bible phrases in preaching. But I also felt your struggle to let go of the veil. Like you and the others, I was once a believer of the message of your JMC pastor’s preaching designed for those who wanted a shortcut in life’s troubles and success. When you get used to in this way of life it’s difficult to let go, that’s why at first I thought of not replying to you anymore. What could I possibly say to you when you believe JMC has the power? Didn’t you try to check the verse in the bible?

    Marco, you said,

    “…at isa lamang ang aking napatunayan nananatiling ang JMCIM ANG tunay na gawain ng mahal na DIOS dahilan for the kingdom of GOD is not only in words but of POWER sa JMCIM ko lang po nakita yan,…”

    One has to scrutinize the phrase you wrote, parroted from your beloved pastor’s use of selective-scrambled verses in preaching! Context-wise you will notice how wrongly he mixed-up verses in the Holy Bible. You heard your JMC Pastor says “…is not only in words…”, but what did St. Paul write in 1 Corinthians 4:20?

    1 Corinthians 4:20 KJV
    For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

    Have you read his added word, “only“, and the mix-up? Perhaps, you were bewildered in the manner your JMC pastor presented it to you and his listeners! And how about the context when St. Paul mentioned, “word”? Was he referring to the Gospel of Christ, or to the word or speech of them which are puffed up? By reading the first verses of the Book, we can identify the difference in your parroted speech from the correct one in the Holy Bible.

    1 Corinthians 4:18 KJV
    Now some are puffed up, as though I would not come to you.

    1 Corinthians 4:19 KJV

    But I will come to you shortly, if the Lord will, and will know, not the speech of them which are puffed up, but the power.

    1 Corinthians 4:20 KJV

    For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

    1 Corinthians 2:4 KJV

    And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    Romans 1:16 KJV

    For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christfor it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    If you believed the “words” of your JMC Pastor, which word should I write to a fanatic and brainwashed member like you about your misinformed generalization about Bro. Eli, then? Truth!

    1 Corinthians 8:2 KJV

    And if any man think that he knoweth any thinghe knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

    The Healing

    On the other hand, my brother asked me and my sister to watch a movie. He chose Governor Vilma Santos-Recto’s newest film, “The Healing”. It was directed by Chito Rono. We watched the R13 cut. The horror movie imparts that faith healers should not go beyond raising the dead because of a devilish consequence. The writer noted that when you raise a person from dead, a bad spirit will have to take the soul’s place and so on and so forth. But speaking of what the bible says, what do you think comes in a person when one believes the doctrines vainly puffed up by the fleshly mind of those who represents themselves as apostles, prophets, teachers, guru and the like?

    Colossians 2:18 KJV
    Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

    1 Timothy 1:7 KJV 

    Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

    While watching the movie, and when I thought of Marco’s comment, I felt the need and decided that it’s time for me to reply to Marco’s bewildered comment.

    Doctrine of Vanities

    In contrast, most miracle crusades or religious denominations go beyond that, they have man-made doctrines. In Saint Paul’s time, though he taught the Good Doctrine to the first century Christians, there were elects that have departed from faith. Some listened and followed seducing spirits and the doctrines of devils through false apostles and teachers with puffed up minds. It is not surprising that even today there are seducing spirits and you can distinguish them by knowing the doctrines of the teachers or leaders who preach or give sermons.

    1 Timothy 4:1 KJV

    Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    Colossians 2:22  KJV
    Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

    Jeremiah 10:8 KJV
    But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.

    Jer 10:8 But they are altogether 259 brutish 1197 and foolish3688 : the stock 6086 [is] a doctrine 4148 of vanities 1892.
    Lexicon Results
    Strong’s H1892 – hebel
    הֶבֶל

    Transliteration

    hebel

    Pronunciation

    heh’vel (Key)

    Parts of Speech

    adverb, masculine noun

    Root Word (Etymology)

    TWOT Reference

    Outline of Biblical Usage

    1) vapour, breath

    a) breath, vapour

    b) vanity (fig.)

    adv

    2) vainly

    Brainwashed

    Marco, I often times heard then from our JMC Assistant Pastora, Lina Almeda (deceased), the wife of our Pastor, Wilde Almeda, when I was still a JMC member, prohibiting us to watch or listen to other religious denominations. Marco, you said:

    bro, naiintindihan po kita meron po tayong kalayaan na pumili ng relihiyon na gusto po nating aniban, subalit nanghihinayang ako sayo kapatid dahilan sa na brainwas ka ng mag tiyo,…”

    I came to know that Bro. Eli Soriano existed one morning, after one of the Friday Overnight Prayers conducted in the Pastoral House in Novaliches ended. I saw people watching Bro. Eli on TV. Some of them are JMC prayer warriors, some pastoral workers, and some brethren. We used to sit in front of the wall where the Ten Commandments were written and just few feet away from the front door of the Pastor’s House where the television was placed. Why were they watching Bro. Eli? Were they exempted to watch other preachers preach? What words were that important to watch for? Though it was some years more before I reached the age when I became curious who this Bro. Eli is. It happened when I unintentionally turned the TV to Channel 13 and heard him preaching and exposing the wrongs of other Christian denominations vis a vis citing verses from the Holy Bible to correct them.

    Bro. Eli prefers democracy in choosing your religion. For your information, Marco, I do not regret that I left JMCIM. It was hard leaving JMCIM before, because like you, I can’t just leave the belief and way of life that I’ve feared and gone used to. Before, I was taught in JMC that the mark 666 is something that shall be tattooed or a technological advancement incorporated in gadgets in the market; that you need literal bread and grape juice to be filled with a holy spirit to speak in tongues; Oneness of God (Trinitarian Manifestation), etc. Especially, miracles are one of the selling factor of JMCIM. I personally saw your pastor’s daughter in death bed that didn’t rise from the dead. He said the return of Jesus was near, but the last sign, which is the great tribulation has not happened yet.

    Please allow me to tell you more of my personal experience as a former JMC member. Perhaps, unlike my commenter, I have seen more and witnessed the earlier works in JMCIM or JMC.

    I was a member of JMCIM/JMC. As for my personal experience there, the more we were exposed listening to the brethren’s testimony from the pulpit – those who got well from previous diseases; those who were once demon possessed but casted away; stories of those who said they died, or their relative, or they themselves are witnesses of one who was raised from the dead; those who were able to cast away hold-uppers by incantations saying, “in the name of Jesus”; those big stories of success and impossibilities that seemed to become possible; those gay who became straight because they are no more effeminate but rather now dresses as what men should wear; and those what not, we started believing.

    The more repetitions of these testimonies, the more we believed. The more we became fanatics. We started believing in the doctrines which include Oneness of God (Trinitarian Manifestation), that Jesus Christ was the Father and also is the Holy Spirit. These three are one and are all the same. That is why in baptism, instead of baptizing us in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, we were baptized in the name of Jesus. The long hairs of women were considered head covering, but just at waistline level, not the natural one untouched by scissors. They can cut it if it grows below the waistline. The sick brethren threw their medicines into the bin, believing that their incurable diseases shall be healed.

    From the above YouTube video, Evangelist Wilde E. Almeda tackles about medicine, Trinitarian Manifestation of God, female long hair, make-up, and proper clothing, etc. The title is “JMCIM One True God clip 2″

     

    I was baptized in JMCIM or JMC when I was more or less seven years old, several years after my parents became a born-again Christian. I was baptized in water, in the “name of Jesus” in a coffin like box made of wood and galvanized iron sheet in Amoranto Stadium just a few meters away from the canal. Several years after, I saw in her death bed our pastor’s daughter after an hour or so, when she died. I thought he can raise someone from the dead. And we hoped and prayed that there will be a miracle.

    I personally have seen what’s happening in worships and crusades from the pastoral house in Novaliches, going to certain places, like Luneta Grandstand, Rizal Park, Amoranto Stadium, a coliseum in Baguio, in some worship house in Cavite; how they start and end. I have seen how the choirs practice in the pastoral house in Novaliches. I have seen the pulpit embossed and engraved the word, “The Jesus Church”, even on the wall with the waterfall and verse painted on it in the pastoral house. I have seen how the tasty bread and Sunny grape juice were being prepared before the Holy Supper, we usually remained for the second batch because we ride with the coaster of the beloved family, or sometimes in their other vehicles. I often have seen personally their travel back and forth, especially when my father bought us our own car. We celebrated Christmas in the Pastoral House, as kids we wear paper crowns and watch the activities.  There was that big Christmas Tree made of green yarns tied at the ceiling and the base tied to large round table, with complete Christmas lights and accessories. Come the Holy Week, we watched Bible movies on an overhead projector in Amoranto or in the Pastoral House.I have seen how the beloved pastor, beloved assistant pastora, beloved children, the pastoral workers travel from the pastoral house to the place of crusades. I played with the beloved children my age in Amoranto stadium before, during, and after the crusades. I gave them cherry ball bubble-gums which elated them so much.

    That was more or less twenty-one years ago. I know the feeling. I experienced, if not more,  the same time and effort you are giving, because I also did my share, if not more, equal sacrifices because of my faith in the god that was preached to me, the god in Oneness, who receives tithes and love offering; and prayer requests in an envelope with money while I was still there.

    I was in children’s choir and saw some of them tremble as they hear the solemn songs while they received the holy spirit coinciding with the Assistant Pastora’s trembling and speaking in tongues which no one can understand; while I saw another woman who did the same, and when she almost fell to the ground and felt no one was to catch her, she immediately got back to her feet; and another one even showing to her fruit how it is to tremble and throw her hands to the air while jumping voluntarily. I was left doubting whether all these were involuntary trembling and speaking in tongues or not or seizures that was brought by intensity of belief to the presence of image in mind formed through the preaching of our Pastor and the Bible study conducted by our Assistant Pastor, sometimes by other prayer warriors; whether the brethren were really receiving which Holy Spirit or was just shy that was why they voluntary did these things as what the assistant pastora got. In the eyes of a child who wholeheartedly cried to God asking Him to be blessed with such wonderful gift to also feel His Holy Spirit like those who seemed to be involuntarily doing it, why wasn’t there still an answer? I kept my patience eagerly waiting that sooner or later I will be one of the receivers of Holy Spirit. But it did not happen.  My mother said she personally felt the trembling when she was singing praises in our house, and yet she still smokes cigarettes as often as she can without anyone noticing her.  It was prohibited to smoke cigarettes and drink liquors in JMC. What healing was there? Why was the healing incomplete? Why can diabetes be healed and not the vices and addictions when even the healing from drug addictions are being enticed in JMC?

    I still feel the pain of my father’s belt as it touches my skin when I feel the child in me wanting to still sleep and seen by him as laziness to go to crusades. I still hear the laughter of our Baptist neighbor teasing us because my father was so loud when we sing praises in our bedroom. I still remember the banging heads of some brethren, as one suddenly wakes up from sleep during an overnight prayer like a domino; his head resting on his rattan chair, raised it and bang his back-head towards the forehead of another sister who was also sleeping lying his forehead on his back chair. I still hear how my classmates bully me for being gay, but I cannot do anything about it but cry and sometimes wished them dead in my mind, too thin line of cursing and casting away the demon behind their teasing. How cannot I change my ways, playing with girly toys and games? Why not? I have seen a Finest Generation Choir member, who testified that he was gay and now was saved because he doesn’t wear female clothes and yet he still moves his body like gays do.  He was just now wearing a short hair and his uniform; that was the transformation, and yet it is advertised as a miracle, when deep inside is a confused individual.

    In contrast, perhaps like Marco who listened to Bro. Eli preached on TV, and just like what I said above, I personally saw how the workers in the JMC pastoral house, including some prayer warriors watch Bro. Eli Soriano on television as he preached the Truth in the Bible.Though I often times heard the Assistant Pastora, the wife of the Pastor, prohibited members watching of other religious denomination.  I also seen them how they watch Apollo Quiboloy’s preaching, the one who wasn’t yet that time, if not, now a self-proclaimed son of God. I even heard how our Assistant Pastora rebuked my mother, of course without telling her name, for buying us a Nintendo family computer and allowing us to watch TV.  I have seen how our church sister, a dentist, who was our neighbor talked to our assistant-pastora, perhaps who reported us about those things, because only her children whom we got to play the computer game. As a child, I was wondering how a sister in faith could do that to us, her only church neighbor, when her children are also watching TV with us, and in their house, but the difference is, they use earphones, so that we cannot hear the sound of their TV. Is this an isolated case of hypocrisy? I think Marco, you just need to open your eyes of what’s going on in JMC. Much better you continue listening more to Bro. Eli as he soberly, carefully, with genuine care discuss to you the errors of what you are saying with Bible facts and proofs.

    1 Corinthians 8:2 KJV

    And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

    John 7:17 KJV

    If any man will do his willhe shall know of the doctrinewhether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

    John 7 Tagalog: Ang Dating Biblia (1905)

    16 Sinagot nga sila ni Jesus, at sinabi, Ang turo ko ay hindi akin, kundi doon sa nagsugo sa akin.

    17 Kung ang sinomang tao ay nagiibig gumawa ng kaniyang kaloobanay makikilala niya ang turokung ito’y sa Dios, o kung ako’y nagsasalita na mula sa aking sarili.

    Good Doctrine 

    Allow me to discuss to you what I learned from Bro. Eli’s teaching whom I believe to be a person sent by God in these times to preach the divine Gospel of Jesus Christ, who based his answers from the Holy Bible for every enquiry he received. Let me remind you also of this verse before I continue:

    Proverbs 4:2 KJV
    For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law.

    Pro 4:2 For I give 5414 you good 2896 doctrine 3948, forsake5800 ye not my law 8451
    Lexicon Results
    Strong’s H3948 – leqach
    לֶקַח

    Transliteration

    leqach

    Pronunciation

    leh’·kakh (Key)

    Part of Speech

    masculine noun

    Root Word (Etymology)

    TWOT Reference

    Outline of Biblical Usage

    1) learning, teaching, insight

    a) instruction (obj)

    b) teaching (thing taught)

    1) teaching-power

    2) persuasiveness

    I have undergone a rigorous indoctrination in MCGI. I still remember my question to Bro. Eli about the Oneness of God. He was able to answer that live on television in SBN 21. Though it took me sometime to digest his answer, I kept going on. Why did it take me that long to digest the answer of Bro. Eli? Because in JMC, repetitions of the Pastor about the Oneness has instilled in us, a way of rationalizing who god is. But the time came, coupled with the reading of the Holy Bible, I began and continued listening to Bro. Eli, until I finally accepted that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who is lower than the Father, and they are different from the Holy Spirit.

    Before I was baptized in the Church of God, I studied the Gospel of Jesus Christ through indoctrination that was explained to me clearly and I agreed to what was taught to me.

    1 Corinthians 13 KJV

    1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

    And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

    Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

    Philippians 2:12 KJV

    Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence,work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

    1 Timothy 3:15
    But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

    Ephesians 2:10
    For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

    Titus 3:8 KJV
    This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

    James 2:17 KJV
    Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

    1 Corinthians 1:2 KJV
    Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their’s and our’s:

    Pure and undefiled Religion

    James 1:27 KJV
    Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

    Marco, you said,

    “…im still member of JMCIM and when the time comes na biglang sumikat si soriano naging tagapagsubaybay niya ako, sabihin na nating napahanga dahilan sa ibang taktika niya sa pangangaral na kinakalaban niya ang lahat, na siya na ang pinaka magaling, na sinasamahan pa niya ng mga pagmumura para ma ipakita niya lang ang kaibahan niya at ma pukos sa kaniya ang pansin ng mga tao, walang araw na hindi niya siniraan ang ating banal na gawain at ang mahal na PASTOR at dahil sa mga pananalita niya nahikayat niya ako na magsuri at magkaroon ng alinlangan sa ating banal na gawain, nagsuri ako ng nagsuri…”

    Do you mean, in these times, you were already allowed to watch and listen to another religious group? Marco, how did you see Bro. Eli? Have you gone the rigorous indoctrination which took me more than a month to finish and even years before I started? Were you just contented to watch on TV and thought that it’s generally how we worshipped God? Have you gone in our locales or even in Apalit to see how the Worship, the Thanksgiving and International Thanksgiving to the God of Israel transpire?

    2 Corinthians 1:12 KJV
    For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward.

    What specific cusses did you hear from Bro. Eli? Didn’t you know that Bro. Eli, just like St. Paul exposed the false prophets and teachers of Christianity? If they teach false teachings, don’t they deserve to be called as such by Bro. Eli who is a defender of Jesus Christ’s faith? Like you, there are those who also wonder why Bro. Eli does that. You may read a testimony of a sister why she became an avid listener of Bro. Eli in “If he is a man of God, why does he cuss?”. Those preachers who asks for tithes and observe the holy supper in the morning, did Jesus Christ teach them to do that as gentiles?

    Bro. Eli started getting to be noticed because of his courage to expose false teachers of Christianity with concrete evidence of their false ways matched with bible Truth. And that is shown accordingly on the “Ang Dating Daan” and “Itanong Mo Kay Soriano, Biblia ang Sasagot” TV programs. Bro. Eli just shown to you, to all his listeners and followers that he knows what he was saying and he has the virtues of a man sent by God to preach the gospel. He reads the Holy Bible and knows what part of it he should read as the need arises, according to the person enquiring.

    John 4:23 KJV
    But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

    Why are you accusing him that he intentionally want people to focus on him? Haven’t you seen and heard Bro. Eli, even up to now, always read his answer from the Bible? He has the God given humility, courage, and motivation to do all these, a path he never thought to choose one day, but because of the truth that he learned from the Bible, he was speaking to us, ever ready to face any enemy of Truth here and abroad!

    Marco, you also said, “…hanggang sa abutan ako ng debate sa tv ng ADD at INC, binalanse ko lahat ng aral, nagsilabasan ang kanilang mga baho sa isat isa sa madaling salita puros CARNALITY ang napansin ko sa mga pinaggagawa nila, lahat may mali lahat may punto subalit ang MENTALIDAD ko lamang ang nabubusog,…”

    If you really did listen to the debates and teachings, did you confess this to your JMC Pastor? Where you reprimanded on this? What did your pastor do to you? How did you reach the point of weighing the teachings? Have you been listening or have been undergoing the indoctrination? Or are you just accusing without any concrete evidence or facts? What are the errors of Bro. Eli? How come you didn’t  give an example of carnality you alleged? Was it all about the public service Bro. Eli and Bro. Daniel Razon of Ang Dating Daan programs? Was it the help they extended and continuously do so even to non-members of the MCGI here and abroad? Was it the help they incessantly extend to poor and members of other religious denomination like Iglesia ni Cristo, INC? All this humanitarian acts because of faith, you can read Who we areWhat we doWays to helpGallery, and how you can Reach us here at http://www.kamanggagawa.org/. You can also watch UNTV 37 channel on TV as well as online at http://untvweb.com.

    John 4:23 KJV
    But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

    2 Corinthians 1:12 KJV
    For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward.

    …(1 of 2 )

  8. August 22, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    …continuation (2 of 2)

    The Gospel of Christfor it is the power of God unto salvation

    Marco, how did you research about MCGI? What power are you talking about? You said,

    “…natapos ang aking pagsusuri at isa lamang ang aking napatunayan nananatiling ang JMCIM ANG tunay na gawain ng mahal na DIOS dahilan for the kingdom of GOD is not only in words but of POWER sa JMCIM ko lang po nakita yan, hindi puro salita, hindi puro aral, hindi puro debate o pagalingan na sinasangkalan na paghahanap kuno ng katotohanan ang debate pero iba ang nakikita ko kung sini ang palengkera siya ang panalo hindi yan ang paghahanap ng tamang aral manapay sabi ni APOSTOL PABLO:

    And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    Yan lang po ang masasabi ko bro……”

    What made you say that JMCIM is the true fellowship of God? Please give specific examples and bible verses. Please allow me to discuss point by point your allegations, Marco. You said,

    “…hindi puro salita, hindi puro aral, hindi puro debate o pagalingan na sinasangkalan na paghahanap kuno ng katotohanan ang debate pero iba ang nakikita ko kung sini ang palengkera siya ang panalo hindi yan ang paghahanap ng tamang aral manapay sabi ni APOSTOL PABLO:

    And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    Yan lang po ang masasabi ko bro……”

    What does St. Paul meant when he wrote about his speech and preaching? Was he referring to the miracles, specifically, the miracles that JMCIM pastors promise with their speech that entice people, especially their members? Wasn’t St. Paul talking about the gospel of Christ? Haven’t St. Paul debated his enemy in faith? When I was in JMC, your pastor didn’t debate anyone, but haven’t you heard him talking about other religious denominations? Please be honest about this. May I ask you, Marco? What are your thoughts about the phrase “enticing words of man’s wisdom”? Don’t you need to be enticed of God’s wisdom that is in Jesus Christ? What should be of the Spirit and of power that were demonstrated in speech and preaching of St. Paul?

    1 Corinthians 2:4 KJV

    And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    Romans 1:16 KJV

    For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    1Cr 2:5 That 2443 your 5216 faith 4102 should 5600 0 not 3361stand 5600 in 1722 the wisdom 4678 of men 444, but235 in 1722 the power 1411 of God 2316.
    Rom 1:16 For 1063 I am 1870 0 not 3756 ashamed 1870 of the gospel 2098 of Christ 5547: for 1063 it is 2076 the power 1411 of God 2316 unto 1519 salvation 4991 to every one 3956 that believeth 4100 ; to the Jew 2453first 4412, and 5037 also 2532 to the Greek 1672.

    Lexicon Results

    Strong’s G1411 – dynamis

    δύναμις

    TransliterationDynamis Pronunciationdü’-nä-mēs (Key)
    Part of Speechfeminine noun Root Word (Etymology)From δύναμαι (G1410)
    TDNT Reference2:284,186 VinesView Entry

    Outline of Biblical Usage

    1) strength power, ability

    a) inherent power, power residing in a thing by virtue of its nature, or which a person or thing exerts and puts forth

    b) power for performing miracles

    c) moral power and excellence of soul

    d) the power and influence which belong to riches and wealth

    e) power and resources arising from numbers

    f) power consisting in or resting upon armies, forces, hosts

    If you are observant you’ll reckon that the definition here tells us that some religious groups describe themselves to be having if not all, some these powers. The Iglesia ni Cristo usually brags of strength in numbers. That is power for them. JMC entices recruits of power for performing miracles that include healing, casting out of demons, turning homosexuals to heterosexuals, etc, but not the Holy Power. Just like them, Apollo Quiboloy entices people of riches and wealth, but he considered himself as God’s son where the kingdom of God lies in Davao. He even said that those who asks “which verse is this and that is a son of the devil!”

    Romans 1:16 KJV

    For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    2 Corinthians 4:4 KJV
    The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    But, I haven’t encountered the definition of this including ‘Moral power and excellence of soul and inherent power’, and ‘power residing in a thing by virtue of its nature, or which a person or thing exerts and puts forth’ except in MCGI! Have you seen this in any group? Perhaps you seen them, but not those based on the bible nor have they reached these?

    Mind of Christ

    Bro. Eli has taught us about these.  I also have wrote about what I heard when Bro. Eli taught these to us which you can read in my old previous post. It is the Gospel of Christ that Bro. Eli contains in his speech and preaching!

    To wit:

    (1) Kagalingan – goodness,

    (2) Kaalaman – knowledge,

    (3) Kabanalan – godliness,

    (4) Pagpipigil – self-control,

    (5) Pagtitiis – perseverance,

    (6) Pag-ibig – love,

    (7) Mabuting Kalooban sa Kapatid – brotherly kindness.

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    2 Peter 1 Tagalog: Ang Dating Biblia (1905)

    1 Si Simon Pedro, na alipin at apostol ni Jesucristo, sa nagsipagkamit na kasama namin ng mahalagang pananampalataya sa katuwiran ng ating Dios at Tagapagligtas na si Jesucristo: 2 Biyaya at kapayapaan ang sa inyo’y dumami sa pagkakilala sa Dios at kay Jesus na Panginoon natin; 3 Yamang ipinagkaloob sa atin ng kaniyang banal na kapangyarihan ang lahat ng mga bagay na nauukol sa kabuhayan at sa kabanalan, sa pamamagitan ng pagkakilala sa kaniya na tumawag sa atin sa pamamagitan ng kaniyang sariling kaluwalhatian at kagalingan; 4 Na dahil dito ay ipinagkaloob niya sa atin ang kaniyang mahahalaga at napakadakilang pangako; upang sa pamamagitan ng mga ito ay makabahagi kayo sa kabanalang mula sa Dios, yamang nakatanan sa kabulukang nasa sanglibutan dahil sa masamang pita.

    5 Oo, at dahil din dito, sa pagkaragdag sa ganang inyo ng buong sikap, ay ipamahagi ninyo sa inyong pananampalataya ang kagalingan; at sa kagalingan ay ang kaalaman; 6 At sa kaalaman ay ang pagpipigil; at sa pagpipigil ay ang pagtitiis; at sa pagtitiis ay ang kabanalan; 7 At sa kabanalan ay ang mabuting kalooban sa kapatid; at sa mabuting kalooban sa kapatid ay ang pagibig.

    8 Sapagka’t kung nasa inyo ang mga bagay na ito at sumasagana, ay hindi kayo pababayaang maging mga tamad o mga walang bunga sa pagkakilala sa ating Panginoong Jesucristo. 9 Sapagka’t yaong wala ng mga mga “bagay na ito ay bulag, na ang nakikita lamang ay ang nasa malapit, sa pagkalimot ng paglilinis ng kaniyang dating mga kasalanan. 10 Kaya, mga kapatid, lalong pagsikapan ninyo na mangapanatag kayo sa pagkatawag at pagkahirang sa inyo: sapagka’t kung gawin ninyo ang mga bagay na ito ay hindi kayo mangatitisod kailan man:

    11 Sapagka’t sa gayon ay ipinamamahaging sagana sa inyo ang pagpasok sa kahariang walang hanggan ng Panginoon natin at Tagapagligtas na si Jesucristo.

    What did St. Paul remind as of, also other disciples and prophets of God? Even St. Paul wrote about these things, he left an instruction to the first century Christians, which will include those who will cleave to the Church of God. St. Paul’s instruction is also scriptural:

    1 Timothy 3:15 KJV
    But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

    Joshua 23:8 KJV
    But cleave unto the LORD your God, as ye have done unto this day.

    Isaiah 14:1 KJV
    For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

    Romans 12:9 KJV
    Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

    Matthew 19:17 KJV
    And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

    Matthew 28 (King James Version)

    18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded youand, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    Ephesians 2:10 KJV
    For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

    1 Corinthians 1:2 KJV
    Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their’s and our’s:

    How it is to behave in the Church of God should be according to the mind of Jesus Christ not according to the puffed up minds and puffed up speeches of preachers who have fleshly minds.

    1 Corinthians 12:28
    And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

    What else did St. Paul write?

    1 Corinthians 12 KJV

    18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.

    19 And if they were all one member, where were the body?

    20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.

    21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

    What about the one body?

     1 Corinthians 12 KJV

    27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

    28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

    29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

    30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

    Marco, you said,

    natapos ang aking pagsusuri at isa lamang ang aking napatunayan nananatiling ang JMCIM ANG tunay na gawain ng mahal na DIOS dahilan for the kingdom of GOD is not only in words but of POWER sa JMCIM ko lang po nakita yan, hindi puro salita, hindi puro aral, hindi puro debate o pagalingan na sinasangkalan na paghahanap kuno ng katotohanan ang debate pero iba ang nakikita ko kung sini ang palengkera siya ang panalo hindi yan ang paghahanap ng tamang aral manapay sabi ni APOSTOL PABLO:

    And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    Yan lang po ang masasabi ko bro……”

    The gifts of healing are supposed to be in God’s will in MCGI, already set in the Church of God in the Bible. What was given to Bro. Eli by God in our era is his understanding and wisdom to know the Bible truth and those who believed have been purifying themselves with the help of the Holy Spirit equipped with the words of God. The healing starts with knowing who God really is in the Bible and His specific commandments to each and everyone; the understanding of how to be a Christian and its corresponding obligations and responsibilities according to the Bible; etc. The healing starts from inside out and able to mend the hearts of those who were brainwashed by false teachers.

    1 Corinthians 12 KJV

    31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

    John 7:17 KJV

    If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

    God has set some in the church and the verses explain themselves. I am not saying that there are no miracles today in the Church, but rather it is not the main reason to entice members to join the church. It is the teaching by power in the mind of Christ, not by enticing words of man’s wisdom. The gifts of healing were already set in the Church of God as written by St. Paul as commanded through Jesus Christ by God. And if you want to be a member, you need to cleave or join there.

    1 Corinthians 2 (King James Version)

    16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

    Perhaps, you had developed a comfort zone with the promises of miracles and misconceptions of healing and emotional gratification, but that is not the biblical comfort being taught by St. Paul.

    1 Corinthians 14:3 KJV

    But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

    But here is Bro. Eli who was blessed by God to teach you the comfort the bible was talking about through the gospel, not miracle based and faulty doctrines.

    1 Corinthians 14:10 KJV

    There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.

    1 Corinthians 14:11 KJV

    Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.

    You have to consider the words “false Christ and false prophets”, and “working miracles” mentioned from the below verses. So, you should consider what the Bible say not what your pastor’s human interpretation.

    Mark 13:22 KJV

    For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

    Revelation 16:14 KJV

    For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

    Mark (Mk) Chapter 13 Tagalog: Ang Dating Biblia (1905) (TADB)

    Mark 13:22    Sapagka’t may magsisilitaw na mga bulaang Cristo at mga bulaang propeta, at mangagpapakita ng mga tanda at mga kababalaghan, upang mailigaw nila, kung mangyayari, ang mga hirang.

    You may read the next verse, it says,

    John 7:17 KJV

    If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

    If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine. I am sorry to hear from you that you are instead rationalizing and acting on your Pastor’s own wisdom. Miracles are used by the false prophets to sell their own designed church to prospects for those who are gullible, if not, the hopeless ones who have not heard yet of the true gospel. “Getting used to” false promises of miracles, that’s where you are, perhaps, the reason why you preferred to return to JMCIM/JMC instead of continuing to listen to the Gospel of Jesus Christ being preached by Bro. Eli.

    Isaiah 29:24 KJV

    They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.

    1 Corinthians 14 KJV

    36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

    37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

    38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

    39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

    40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

    1 Corinthians 15

    King James Version (KJV)

    15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

    St. Paul explained what he meant by enticing words of man’s wisdom, also about power.

    1 Corinthians 4:19 KJV

    But I will come to you shortly, if the Lord will, and will know, not the speech of them which are puffed up, but the power.

    Colossians 2:4 KJV

    And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.

    What are examples of enticing words? Are these words vainly puffed up by fleshly mind of pastors?

    Colossians 2:18 KJV

    Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

    What else?

    Colossians 2 KJV

    8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    1 Corinthians 4:6 KJV

    And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

    Philippians 1:27

    Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

    Philippians 4:7

    And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

    So it is in Jesus Christ that we should be rooted and built up after. Jesus Christ said:

    Matthew 28 (King James Version)

    18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    With these, please read again Colossians 2.

    Colossians 2 KJV

    1 For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh;

    2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

    3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

    4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.

    5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

    6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

    7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

    8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

    11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

    12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

    13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

    14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

    15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

    16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

    17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

    18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

    19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.

    20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

    21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;

    22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

    23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

    Related to this writing, St. Paul said:

    1 Corinthians 4:20 KJV

    For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

    1 Corinthians 2 (King James Version)

    16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

    Colossians 2 (KJV)

    10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

    How are the Colossians complete in Jesus Christ? They now have the mind of Christ. We follow the mind of Jesus Christ whose mind follows his Father. We should be followers of:

    1 Corinthians 2 KJV

    2 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

    2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

    3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.

    4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

    How do the Spirit and power demonstrate? Don’t they demonstrate with the enticing words of God’s wisdom, that is, Truth? What is power, by the way? Isn’t it the gospel of Jesus Christ, the power of God unto salvation?

    Romans 1:16 KJV

    For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    Matthew 28 (King James Version)

    18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    1 Corinthians 13:4

    Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

    1 Corinthians 4:20 KJV

    For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

    1 Corinthians 2 (King James Version)

    16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

    1 Corinthians 8:2 KJV

    And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

    Marco you said,

    natapos ang aking pagsusuri at isa lamang ang aking napatunayan nananatiling ang JMCIM ANG tunay na gawain ng mahal na DIOS dahilan for the kingdom of GOD is not only in words but of POWER sa JMCIM ko lang po nakita yan, hindi puro salita, hindi puro aral, hindi puro debate o pagalingan na sinasangkalan na paghahanap kuno ng katotohanan ang debate pero iba ang nakikita ko kung sini ang palengkera siya ang panalo hindi yan ang paghahanap ng tamang aral manapay sabi ni APOSTOL PABLO:

    And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    Yan lang po ang masasabi ko bro……”

    Marco, what are those “words” is being mentioned here?  Those who are puffed up in St. Paul’s time were teaching, enticing others of what they think based on their own wisdom, not of the gospel of Christ. Please spare me with your accusations and fanatical arguments. If you have been used to the false doctrines preached to you, you will really overlook that the “words” being mentioned is the speech of them which are puffed up. Please read the preceding verse, from 1 Corinthians 18 to 19 and 20.

    1 Corinthians 2 KJV

    2 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

    2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

    3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.

    4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

    1 Corinthians 4 (King James Version)

    18 Now some are puffed up, as though I would not come to you.

    19 But I will come to you shortly, if the Lord will, and will know, not the speech of them which are puffed up, but the power.

    20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

    21 What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

    If you have learned from the doctrine, you will know how important the word of God is. And it’s the Lord’s will how you will learn the doctrine. Not the word of those some that are puffed up, but the power that St. Paul knows from the Lord. Don’t be like your Pastors and his prayer warriors who are just selective of verses, they didn’t even mind to show the other verses connected to such. They are used to preaching in shortcut that’s why they are leading themselves and you to the ditch.

    1 Corinthians 2:4-5,12-13 KJV

    4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

    12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

    13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

    1 Corinthians 3 (King James Version)

    18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

    19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

    Getting used to” to misconceptions in matters of power of the Church of God is vanity, it won’t profit your soul.

    1 Corinthians 14:6 KJV

    Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?

    What can speaking in tongues and miracles shall JMCIM profit you and me if the leader there won’t speak by doctrine?

    1 Corinthians 14:26

    How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

    Miracles were set in the first century Christian era stated by St. Paul. But, remember St. Mark and St. John also warned that miracles shall be used by anti-christs to even fool the elect?

    1 Corinthians 12 (King James Version)

    4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

    5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.

    6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

    7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

    8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

    9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

    10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

    11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

    12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

    13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    14 For the body is not one member, but many.

    All of these are already in the Church of God. To be included in the Church of God and inherit that power as provided by the will of God, as the gospel is being preached here and abroad, from the east to the west, (which you may read, “From the East to the West” and “From East to West: the Sun of Righteousness“) you need to be a member of that body, to learn the good doctrines and to know how work out your own salvation.

    1 Timothy 1 KJV

    1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

    Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

    As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,

    Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

    Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscienceand of faith unfeigned:

    14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

    That is why we cleaved to that Church, that is why, we are members of the Church of God, International, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord.

    1 Corinthians 1:2 KJV
    Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their’s and our’s:

     And if you will continue the chapter, you’ll read:

    1 Corinthians 12 (King James Version)

    24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked.

    25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.

    26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.

    27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

    28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

    29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

    30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

    31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

    May God bless you with grace and understanding.

    I am nothing.

    For further questions, you may direct it to Bro. Eli’s twitter, http://twitter.com/BroEliSoriano and his wordpress at http://esoriano.wordpress.com.

    Ephesians 5:9 KJV
    (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

  9. marco
    May 26, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    elmantheman said,

    ***If you are observant you’ll reckon that the definition here tells us that some religious groups describe themselves to be having if not all, some these powers. The Iglesia ni Cristo usually brags of strength in numbers. That is power for them. JMC entices recruits of power for performing miracles that include healing, casting out of demons, turning homosexuals to heterosexuals, etc, but not the Holy Power. Just like them, Apollo Quiboloy entices people of riches and wealth, but he considered himself as God’s son where the kingdom of God lies in Davao. He even said that those who asks “which verse is this and that is a son of the devil!”***

    bro, sa JMCIM Biblical power po…….

    elmantheman said,

    ***But, I haven’t encountered the definition of this including ‘Moral power and excellence of soul and inherent power’, and ‘power residing in a thing by virtue of its nature, or which a person or thing exerts and puts forth’ except in MCGI! Have you seen this in any group? Perhaps you seen them, but not those based on the bible nor have they reached these?***

    bro, yun lang kasi ang alam ng MCGI….power of words……

    ….saka ko na sasagutin yung paliwanag mo sa “mind of Christ”…..hanggang dito lang muna kaibigan……marami pong salamat…..may Godbless you…..

  10. June 5, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    Alright! I will wait for your answer, Marco. Please tell us how many years since you were baptized in JMCIM. Also tell us if you’re a JMCIM preacher or Pastor Almeda’s relative.

  11. marco
    June 6, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    elmanthemen said,

    Alright! I will wait for your answer, Marco. Please tell us how many years since you were baptized in JMCIM. Also tell us if you’re a JMCIM preacher or Pastor Almeda’s relative.

    bro, im not a preacher and mostly im not a bel. Pastor Almeda’s relative, im only a common member but deep observer……siguro nagugulat ka kung paano ko panindigan ang mga Biblical Doctrine ng JMCIM…..

  12. July 2, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    Marco, didn’t you promise something below? Where is it?

    “….saka ko na sasagutin yung paliwanag mo sa “mind of Christ”…..hanggang dito lang muna kaibigan……marami pong salamat…..may Godbless you…..”

    So, while myself and readers here wait for your promise answer, I’ll leave you some verses to contemplate about your answers and taunting me.

    Please read the verses below carefully:

    (1) James 2:24 KJV

    Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

    2 Peter 1 KJV

    1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

    2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

    3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

    4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

    5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue
    ; and to virtue knowledge;

    6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;

    7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

    8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

    10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

    11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

    12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.

    (2) 1 Thessalonians 1 (King James Version)

    4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

    5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

    6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost.

    7 So that ye were ensamples to all that believe in Macedonia and Achaia.

    8 For from you sounded out the word of the Lord not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad; so that we need not to speak any thing.

    9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;

    10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

    (3) Acts 24 KJV

    1 And after five days Ananias the high priest descended with the elders, and with a certain orator named Tertullus, who informed the governor against Paul.

    2 And when he was called forth, Tertullus began to accuse him, saying, Seeing that by thee we enjoy great quietness, and that very worthy deeds are done unto this nation by thy providence,

    3 We accept it always, and in all places, most noble Felix, with all thankfulness.

    9 And the Jews also assented, saying that these things were so.

    10 Then Paul, after that the governor had beckoned unto him to speak, answered, Forasmuch as I know that thou hast been of many years a judge unto this nation, I do the more cheerfully answer for myself:

    11 Because that thou mayest understand, that there are yet but twelve days since I went up to Jerusalem for to worship.

    12 And they neither found me in the temple disputing with any man, neither raising up the people, neither in the synagogues, nor in the city:

    13 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.

    (4) 1 Thessalonians 2 King James Version (KJV)

    1 For yourselves, brethren, know our entrance in unto you, that it was not in vain:

    2 But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention.

    3 For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile:

    4 But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.

    5 For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloke of covetousness; God is witness:

    6 Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ.

    7 But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children:

    8 So being affectionately desirous of you, we were willing to have imparted unto you, not the gospel of God only, but also our own souls, because ye were dear unto us.

    9 For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God.

    10 Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe:

    11 As ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a father doth his children,

    12 That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.

    (5) 1 Thessalonians 2 KJV

    12 That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.

    13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

    14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

    15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

    16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

    17 But we, brethren, being taken from you for a short time in presence, not in heart, endeavoured the more abundantly to see your face with great desire.

    18 Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.

    19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?

    20 For ye are our glory and joy.

    (6) 1 Thessalonians 5 KJV

    27 I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren.

    28 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

    (7) Psalm 143:10 KJV

    Teach me to do thy will
    ; for thou art my God: thy spirit is good; lead me into the land of uprightness.

    (8) 1 Corinthians 2:13 KJV

    Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

    (9) Luke 12:12 KJV

    For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

    (10) John 14:26 KJV

    But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

    (11) Matthew 28: KJV

    17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

    18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    (12) Romans 15 KJV

    12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.

    13 Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

    14 And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.

    15 Nevertheless, brethren, I have written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me of God,

    16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

    17 I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God.

    18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,

    19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

    20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel
    , not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man’s foundation:

    21 But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand.

    22 For which cause also I have been much hindered from coming to you.

    29 And I am sure that, when I come unto you, I shall come in the fulness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ.

    30 Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ’s sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;

    31 That I may be delivered from them that do not believe in Judaea; and that my service which I have for Jerusalem may be accepted of the saints;

    32 That I may come unto you with joy by the will of God, and may with you be refreshed.

    33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

    (13) Hebrews 2 KJV

    2 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

    2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;

    3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

    4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

    5 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.

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