I typed this one to your 1st and second post. I had a few errors committed and I just realized now what had happened between us.

I was caught between slow internet settings as I usually save my posts as I type them to avoid the internet hanging up and my post disappearing.

My error was saving my post as I type it down, saving, eventually editing it without realizing that you yourself was reading my post already. I have just found out the mistake when someone told me about it from newsvine.com.

You know, whenever I save my post, the format that I used for wordpress sometimes change. I posted a quote from me and then it attached to your quote that I pasted. When I edited it, maybe, I mistook it as your own quote. Again, I am editing my posts, save, then read, and then go back to edit options to correct some errors.

Maybe we, have differences in way of posting what we type. But then again, it is not an excuse for me. For this I am very sorry, that the quote that I made has offended you because it becomes as you wrote it.

And I will not delete what you wanted me to delete because I want people to read my blog as something that is assuring that the mistakes you read there in my blog and the corrections you wrote in your own blog would be transparent.

We may have different views in logic and religion, but we are still people who can be friends in terms of good works. I hope as a friend, you will first look at where people are coming from, it is not the person, it is the teachings yours truly and my presiding minister is trying to inform people. Christianity becomes a taboo from other people because those who taught it and lived by it did not behave as a true Christian, you will see hypocrisy. And to generalize that all Christians are like this is not logical. Maybe you can try to research more about us, not because I just say so, but because your logic will tell you that it makes sense.

I committed my mistakes and I hope you forgive me for that.

What I meant with that quotation is that if you want to learn the teachings of God, you should learn the right teachings. Some Pastors or Priests uses the same verses, quoting from the Bible, but when they start to give their sermon, they give their own opinions opposite what they read. The quotations from the bible become a new teaching the way they say them. And you will not wonder why people becomes more evil because of the new teachings. And if you will just study the unadulterated teachings, you will see that logic and religion in the HOLY Bible is interrelated.

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

1 Timothy 5:4
But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God.

It seemed that one post from you is not enough to rebuild your stand and arguments against this house. And finding out that your second post, even the first one block me from answering leaves me no choice but to answer you from my own blog’s comments area. Do you block me from your blog or you just do not allow readers to comment on your arguments? What a way to conveniently debate and argue!

You forgot to mention or ignored the fact that most of your arguments about homosexuality and the Holy Bible were crushed specifically by the Holy Bible itself. Your arguments are all plain, basic arguments of individuals who tried to make the bible devoid of truth and reality.

Let me just quote you and let us see how you mastered hypocrisy: “One thing I do know is that thinking one is superior only leads to hatred. And than can never be a good thing if we want to live in a peaceful world.”

No, I can not see how useful and truthful the Bible is. I know you believe it to be truthful, however, and I respect that. However, naming a subject and then finding a bible verse that vaguely talks about it does not imply truthfulness. You must understand that although you believe it to be true, I do not.

If you really are truthful to your readers, you might as well enable a link from my post which you are tackling in your post and allow yours truly access to your comments area so we can discuss further. You are curious just as you said. But don’t make it too obvious that your statements are plain rhetorics.

6d60 said, “…Oh, and by the way, elmantheman, I’m a guy, just so you know. I am curious, however, how one is to be both gay and Christian. For it says in Leviticus, and I quote, “Homosexual acts are an abomination to God.” -18:22. And, of course, “If a man has sex with another man, kill them both.” 20:13.

Now I of course find that extremely offenseive and must resist the urge to burn the copy of the Bible I just referred to. And I’m sure this must offend you, as a homosexual, at least as much, if not more than it does me. So tell me, how do you still keep a Christian faith? Do you just conveinently ignore that part? I mean, some of the Bible is open to interperitation, but there’s pretty much no way you could interperit that differently.

So if you do ignore those parts of the Bible, does that not shake the entire foundations of the Christian faith? If you know in your heart that that part isn’t right, don’t you start thinking some of, if not all the rest of it might not be right either? And then how do you know what to believe? Not to mention, of course, the bible’s numerous inconsistancies, continuity errors, other things that are grossly immoral, and just plain absurdities (I would point them out, but the work has been done for me at http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/).

I’m sorry this turned into a kind of mini-essay, but I am genuinely scientifically curious as to how a homosexual can be a Christian.”

Right, you can deliver your essays, rhetorics, and rebuildings but it is blatant that you are not genuinely scientifically curious to know the answers. You thought I was offended by how you introduced me in your posts, referring to me as a homosexual, insinuating how being one can make me disregard the Holy Bible.

One thing is for sure, you love scaramouche that you are prepared to accept what that woman prefers and believes in and to defend her beliefs. But since you thought that the Holy Bible is totally against her, without studying it with a knowledgeable person, you started believing to your opinion and invention and make a logic out of it. For example, to quote you again:

No, I can not see how useful and truthful the Bible is. I know you believe it to be truthful, however, and I respect that. However, naming a subject and then finding a bible verse that vaguely talks about it does not imply truthfulness. You must understand that although you believe it to be true, I do not.

When that is your belief, who will believe your arguments? Who will believe you, your same feathers?

As for myself, I am ready to fight myself, my own pride and ego, I am willing to let go of my belief just so the truth remains the truth. And the clash here, you would not believe the Holy Bible, and in fact you believe that you are most likely wrong in many things?

Colossians 2:6-8

See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.

Let me just re-post here my previous reply to you:

But then again, if you felt that the misquotes I’ve done which you feel imputed on you, well read them again. Maybe those are not misquotes most especially not a reference to you, but to those who are concerned.

1 Thessalonians 2:3
For the appeal we make does not spring from error or impure motives, nor are we trying to trick you.

You can take away what I said even the Title of the Books, the Chapters, and the verses, just let the scripture remain from those verses, the messages remains true.

I am leaving my link here. Thanks for the space!

http://elmantheman.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/how-a-homosexual-can-be-a-christian/

http://6d60.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/logic-and-religion/